More thoughts on the finale


I originally thought that the whole fake cover story was devised by Oceanic Airlines in secret cooperation with Ben/Widmore to keep the island protected from the outside world and to protect Oceanic from any legal repercussions. But now it appears that Jack and the rest of the O6 came up with the story while on Penny’s rescue ship.

Jack was convinced to lie when he finally accepted that miracles do happen (even though earlier in the day he told Locke there is no such thing as miracles). These were a a few miracles Jack saw that day.

  1. The rescue helicopter develops a fuel leak but thanks to heroics by Sawyer and some others they make it on to the freighter and escape before the bomb goes off.
  2. The island disappears in front of his own eyes.
  3. The helicopter can’t find a place to land and crashes into the sea. All survive (even though Desmond nearly drowns) with little injury.
  4. Kate tells him it’s a miracle that baby Aaron survived the crash.

This in my opinion was a BIG turning point in Jack’s character (the man of science). We get confirmation of this in the last scene when Jack goes back to visit Locke in the funeral parlor knowing that he was at fault for not listening to the man of Faith. Jack’s leaving the island was disastrous just as Locke had told him it would be. Both those who escaped and those left behind on the island suffered because of Jack’s not listening to Locke.


Sayid said that Jeremy Bentham/Locke died a few “weeks” ago?
Where was the safe place he was taking Hurley to?
Hurley playing chess with an invisible Mr. Eko, weird.

Charlotte’s birth place. Could it be The island, and might she be Annie.  See a resemblance in this photo?

What was it Sawyer whispered to Kate? Here is my guess (essentially later confirmed by people who rewatched the episode with the volume up)

I have a daughter named Clementime who lives in Albuquerque.
Please contact Cassidy Phillips and make sure she is taken care of?
And don’t tell anyone what I just told you.
By the way take a deep breath I am going to give you a very long kiss 🙂

Since Jack saw Sawyer whispering to Kate why didn’t he ask her then what he said?
Jack is usually the nosy type.

Why did Jack go back to the funeral home and break in to see the body… to pay his last respects?
How did locke die, did Ben kill him, or Widmore, or was it really suicide?
If someone killed him, they covered it up with the phoney newspaper article.

The first scene with Kate and Jack was interesting.
How dare you ask me to go back after insisting we get off the island,
and all the people who we left behind (sawyer juliet and CLAIRE!).
The subtext is: Thanks for leaving me to take care of Aaron *alone* while you are popping pills!

it would be interesting to get a lost “chronology” version where all the events are in
chronological order. Then we would see the last scene of season 3 combined with this one.

The casimir cave, as I like to call it, where the island “cloaking” device was seemed a bit too special “effectsy”. I would have liked to have seen some Arne Saknussemm like markings or maybe some old relics of the previous civilization. I know we saw some Runes there, but I would have liked Ben to follow a series a tunnels with markings that led to the cave with the “Frozen Donkey Wheel”.
A.S. was a character in Jules Verne’s Journey to the Center of the Earth who left clues to find all the secret passages. By the way a new movie version is coming soon out on July 11, 2008. I am definitely planning to see that.
It looked like the island had not been moved for a long time as everything was iced over. By the way for ice there needs to be both cold and water.
Did Ben teleport to Tunisia right after he turned the wheel and the weird noise and light moved the island?
Why was there an ice “shield” blocking the way down from the Orchid?


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There’s No Place Like Home (Parts 2 and 3)

In the Season 4 LOST finale many things were tied up from last year.

Jack has to go back to the island because Locke told him to go back. Ben is going to help arrange it, but he says all of the Oceanic 6 must return (even the man in the coffin).

Kate won’t go back. In a dream, Claire returns to warn her that Aaron is not supposed to go back to the island. Kate is no longer talking to Jack now that he is on pills and is no longer helping her with Aaron.

Sawyer does the most heroic thing possible. In fact Sawyer is one of the heroes of this show (along with Michael). He jumps out of the helicopter to lighten the load so it can make it back to the freighter after they discover there is a fuel leak.

Jin stupidly stays behind to help Michael with the C4 explosive. (This part was clumsily edited, they should have at least had Jin working harder to disarm the bomb, to show he thought he was close to succeeding). Then the scene would have made a bit more sense. But Michael was trying to bide some time so he could get Sun off the boat. Why would Jin risk Sun’s life? I don’t get it.

Walt visits Hurley at Santa Rosa. He met with the mysterious Jeremy Bentham (aka Jeremy Benton aka John Locke’s fake name) who told him they have go back. Others that saw Jeremy were Hurley, Kate and Jack. They were all told the same thing. Only this time Jack really believes it.

People remaining on the island are Juliet, Ben, Locke, and Sawyer (who somehow lost his shirt swimming back to the beach). Also left there are the Others and Richard Alpert with Locke as their new leader. And Charlotte and Miles from the freighter.


What happened to the raft people when the island disappeared?

How did (the dead) Christian Shephard show up on the boat to tell Michael he could go now? Where did Michael go to or is he dead?

How will they get back. Ben said he could not go back to the island if he was the one to move it, how will he help the O6 + Walt + Coffin Man get back there?

Where did the island go? Is it in the same place but a different time? Or is it on the other side of the world since that is where the polar bear went to and the Nigerian drug plane came from?

Why did Ben knowingly let Keamy die causing the freighter to explode? Does he know past present and future events? And why did Ben blow up the Casimir effect machine? Was it just to make a way into the tunnel where the real power of the island was located? Does the Casimir effect machine really even do anything? Is it a like a microwave oven (no metal allowed or it will explode)?

How cool was it that Penny finally located Desmond? (Jeremy figured this out before me).

Does Jack believe in miracles now? How can he and Kate ever reconcile? What did Sawyer whisper into her ear? And finally who killed John Locke or did he die from being off the island?


LOST has really picked up steam since the middle of season 3. I really like the focus the show has now on action and adventure in each and every episode. The first season really delved into the backstory of beach survivors, the second on the tail survivors, the third on the Others, and the fourth was supposed to be about the freighters. The best news for LOST was when the producers knew they had an end date for the show. Once that happened the story seemed to pick up a great deal of momentum. The bad news this season was the writer’s strike which slowed that momentum down a bit. They could not go as deep into the backstory of the freighter folk (which they promise to do next season). Also I thought this seasons finale was interesting but not as compelling or as polished as last year’s and that is probably due to the short amount of time they had to produce it due to the mid-seasons writer’s strike. Even so I still enjoyed it very much.

Especially the Orchid station which was the shows highlight. It brought back memories of the Swan hatch where someone had to do something (turn a key) to save the people on the island. We see that again here with Ben. It turns out he is not quite as cold as we thought. If he is telling the truth, he will not be able to get back to the island again. He has sacrificed that privilege in order to “move” the island according to orders received from Jacob.

The other surprising character is Sawyer who jumps out of the helicopter so the O6 can make back to the boat. It seemed kind of obvious though what he was about to do after Lapidus said he needed to lose another couple of hundred of pounds and everyone looked at Hurley. I guess the love of Kate is what is motivating this nice guy part of Sawyer. Juliet also made a big sacrifice by being the last to leave the island. I feel sorry for her the most, because all she wanted to do was get off the island to see her sister and now there is no hope at all for her rescue. What will become of all the island bound characters in the 3 years since the O6 left the island? And how will Sun get her revenge over Jin’s death. Will Jack be able to redeem himself for the unfortunate results of his leading them off the island?

I guess we will find out in Season 5.

Hope you liked the episode. Let me know what you think of this episode and if you have any thoughts on a couple of special podcasts we could do over the summer. Stayed tuned for our season finale podcast coming out soon.


4.12 All About Lost – There’s No Place Like Home pt1

In this edition we discuss There is No Place Like Home pt 1, the first part of the three part Lost season 4 finale. We recap the show and provide thoughts on who Ben signaled, the coffin, and the C4 explosive. With listener feedback thrown in for good measure.

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LOST fan goes crazy in new video

Here is a funny video for all of us frustrated Lost fans who just can’t seem to get our questions answered.  There is a short commercial first (you can’t skip it, but there is always the “mute” button).

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There’s No Place Like Home (Part 1)

Here is what we learned in part 1 of this 3 part finale to Season 4:

Off Island:

The Oceanic 6 use a cover story to tell the media a lie about what really happened on the island.

The relatives of the O6 meet them in Honolulu at a military base.

Sayid reunites with Nadia, Jack meets his mom, Hurley his parents, Sun her parents, Aaron/Kate have no one to greet them (Kate’s mom was really sick last we saw of her).

The cover story is basically that the plane crashed in the water nearby a small island near Sunda. A typhoon washed a small power boat and supplies on shore after 108 days. They entered the life boat which carried the 5 (Kate was “pregnant” at the time) to a larger island where they were picked up by the Coast Guard.

Hurley gives up his 150 million and goes home to find his house empty. Inside is a coconut (shades of Dave his imaginary friend who threw a coconut at him on the island). He goes searching for the intruder only to find his family and friends there who are throwing him a surprise party. His dad gives hims a special gift. It is the old Camaro they worked on when Hurley was a boy,but the car’s odometer shows “the numbers”. Hurley freaks out and goes running off down the street.

A few months later we see a very preggers Sun climbing the steps to her father’s office. He is in a meeting with a few men who are talking about someone who used 5 bank accounts to invest a lot of money in their company. Sun’s father wants to know who it is. He is about to find out. Sun talks to him and he asks about the baby. But Sun says her father never cared about the baby or Jin. In fact her father hated Jin and turned him into an “enforcer” a violent man who ruined their marriage. Sun has come for her revenge. She has bought a controlling interest in her father’s company. She says her father caused the death of Jin along with another man (presumably Charles Widmore or maybe Michael).

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All About LOST – 4.11 (Cabin Fever)

In this episode Jeremy returns for talk about LOST 4.11 Cabin Fever. Recap, Thoughts, Listener feedback and TLE goes back on the clock with some theories about "creepy" Claire.

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